Kölykök / Puppy's







Reproducers or breeders?

It is hard to write about this without passion as there is an enormous difference between reproducers and breeders.

A breeder is a person who breeds dogs - with prior planning, knowing the quality to be expected from the future puppies based on the parents' qualities, and with scrupulousness knowing that he/she will have to find a good and suitable home for all the puppies born, and who also feels responsible for the health of the mother dog (too many litters one right after the other will undermine the bitch's health).

A reproducer is someone who simply has his/her dogs reproduce for the sake of being able to sell the puppies for financial gain. Reproducers do not care about either the quality of the puppies or the health of their bitches. All they care about is making money.

But who is responsible for the reproducers? They, themselves of course, but also the buyers, we, ourselves - if we do nothing about it, and - of course - the authorities. As long as there is a market for reproduced animals, this type of business will flourish. Reproducers will not stop of their own accord.

The greatest problem is lack of knowledge - which can be influenced, and the ever present wish to save money whenever possible. A great depends on what practices and rules we learnt as children, whether we were taught that having a live animal in the family is a huge responsibility - not for a short period of time, but for the lifetime of the new family member.

Take for example the person who "bought a very nice little dachshund at the market. It looks a bit strange, but it is pure-bred, because the lady he bought it from said so. Oh, and the puppy was very cheap - only 20 000 HUF. Of course, we would never pay the amount a breeder asks, that is simply too much. Not to mention the fact that the papers and online ads pages are full of ads about cheap puppies."

All would be owners should understand that who the parents of any puppy bought is extremely important. Puppies are cute, but what happens when they grow up? They must know that it is not sufficient to merely "be told" who the parents are and what they are like, that the puppies have been dewormed, have received the required vaccinations, etc., but withoutany actual proof of this. The price of a puppy depends not on the pedigree certificate (a mere 5500 HUF, or, in the case of Hungarian breeds 1500 HUF). It is not because of the pedigree certificate that a puppy bought from a breeder costs 100-200-300 000 HUF.

The cost of the puppy bought from a breeder covers all of the following: vet's costs during the bitch's pregnancy, suitable pet food for the puppies, vet's costs, the costs of the vaccinations, microchipping, the care and attention given to the puppies, training and socializing them, etc.

Dogs have a value, one that often cannot be measured in financial terms. Anyone who buys a puppy based merely on the fact that it is cute and that it costs practically nothing, will be more inclined to put it out on the street - or somewhat better - into a shelter.

Remember, the amount you pay for the puppy is a minor cost as compared to what you will be spending on the dog throughout its lifetime: vet's costs, vaccinations, dog food, accessories (leash, anti-flea and ticks-collar, etc.), training. If you do not have the money to pay the price of a breeder, how will you provide well for the dog over the years?

The dog shelters are full of beautiful, pure-bred dogs - you do not need to buy them for huge amounts - you can get one free of charge at a shelter.
A reproducer will keep the bitches in conditions not worthy of any dog: in small cages. They do not feed them or care for them as needed. These bitches will give birth non-stop and will be thrown out at the age of 8 or 9, when they no longer have the strength to have puppies, after 10-20 litters. Nor do the reproducers care about the puppies. They do not adhere to the age old regulation that it is FORBIDDEN to take a puppy away from its mother before the age of 8 weeks.

It is you, the buyer, who is responsible for finding the breeder (!) from whom you would like to buy the puppy. Often this will mean visiting two or three different breeders and travelling up to 100-200 kilometers to find the one you like the best. Consider it to be a program.

Who are the reproducers?

I have set up four categories for reproducers.

1. The classical reproducer

They are the worst, the ones we will occasionally see in the news. They keep 10-30 dogs in cages or in small places. They often do not know who the actual parents of the puppies are, nor do they give them the emotional (loving, petting, etc.) or health care (deworming, vaccinations, etc.) required. They don't care about the health of either their own dogs or the puppies. They will freely sell a Labrador puppy as being a Golden Retriever, or a Chihuahua as a Spicc. If needed (the buyer is looking for a specific color), they won't refrain from painting the puppy. All they care about is money, and they don't even for a second think about the lives (dog's and owner's, alike) they are ruining.

Don't buy from people like these. There are thousands of dogs are waiting in the shelters or at temporary owners to be able to join a family and have a good life!

2. The irresponsible owner and the ignorant layman

This is a somewhat better category in the sense that in general neither consciously realize that they may be hurting someone.

The irresponsible owner does not have his/her dog spayed - either due to lack of knowledge or because he/she consciously opposes spaying. If the bitch becomes pregnant, the puppies are found homes.

The ignorant layman loves his/her dog, would like the dog "to live on", hence the puppies. The layman looks for an appropriate partner for the dog, thus the puppies are usually pure-bred. However, the layman is not aware of all the responsibilities the birth of a litter entails: checking the medical and breeding background of the parents to avoid any birth deficiencies or inheritable illnesses, the medical supervision required during the bitch's pregnancy, the actual birth and the care and training to be provided after birth.

The point of contact between the ignorant owner and the reproducer is the dog shelter, as many of the puppies resulting from such matches will also end up in shelters. When they grow up they may become unwanted: as they are untrained they may become a problems, etc.

Once the puppies are born, it becomes difficult, as what will an animal loving person do? Adopt them, of course, thus "approving" the precedents, knowing that if the puppies are not adopted, they will end up on the street or in a shelter.

3. The conscious and deliberate reproducer

This category is, perhaps, the most surprising, as - especially for an unknowledgeable would be owner - it is difficult to decide whether they are dealing with a breeder or a reproducer. This type of reproducer will have 10-20 dogs usually of 3-4 different breeds. They usually provide more or less normal conditions for the dogs, however, for them, the dogs and puppies are merely a source of income. With so many dogs it is questionable how much time they have to be with them on an individual basis, to provide personalized care, etc. Nor are they all that much interested in who will buy the puppies. It is they, who will usually sell puppies to animal stores. They are not interested in bettering the breed and their dogs are usually not quality ones. They are very good when selling the puppies, however, should the owner run into any problems, they will not be there to help, as they are no longer interested in the puppies. They are the ones who will give you a puppy of 6 weeks irrespectively of tradition and the law. They will have the bitches become pregnant every time possible. They simply do not care about the rules and regulations of breeding.

Prices in this category will vary from the very cheap to the real breeders' prices. It is hardest to deal with them as they are fully aware of what breeding means in general, but are influenced solely by the ability to make money.

4. The reproducer clothed in the breeder's skin

This is the worst category. They obtain all the knowledge needed to be breeders, but disregard breeders and dogs alike to make as much money as possible. They lack ethics, obtain and use information from others and "sell it" as their own, they talk about people in the profession as friends, when they don't even know them personally. They present themselves as someone who is fully interested in the future of their puppies.

So be very careful when choosing a puppy and where/from whom to buy it, because you are choosing a family member who will be with you for next 10-15 years.

An example of someone in this category:

Kun Karcag Szépe Kennel: PiroskaVarga

I promised this young lady my assistance, to provide her with opportunities, to introduce her into the Hungarian dachshund society and to help her find suitable owners for her puppies.

All this changed after the terrible events in connected to her dog Adonis and his life. She can confirm or refute how she was able to digest that the poor dog was beaten, shocked with an electric collar, and when left to survive on his own with a broken leg and disabled by his "owners"- how she was able to give him over to the breed rescuers - without even arranging for the required surgery beforehand. An exchange between an acquaintance and Andrea shows that she knows that Adonis is already with his 4th (!) owner. And she calls herself a responsible breeder…

My own personal conviction is that anyone who brings a dog into the world is responsible for it - both financially and ethically.

A post from the Facebook site of the Dachshund Rescue Hungary:

We haven't been without a problematic baby dachshund. A picture of a small girl puppy was posted on a social media site. The poster was looking for someone who would take in a puppy with a deformed leg. Lili arrived to the temporary owner and the medical examination started. It turned out that the little leg is deformed because it had been sprained but was not put back in its place. The sprained leg was thus unable to grow normally, thus it is shorter than the other three. Now, it can only be treated and corrected with surgery. But at least Lili will be able to walk and live without pain. The surgery was performed in the Primavet Veterinary Hospital, once again absolutely professionally - thank you! Now comes physiotherapy and hope, that she will not catch any disease until the vaccination program as she will now be in places where she is more susceptible to catching illnesses.

Anyone can contribute to Lili's medical costs by transferring money to the bank account of Futrinka Association at K&H Bank: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Under "comments" please add: TACSKÓ LILI.

Thank you!"

Andnews feed from the website of Dachshund Rescue Hungary (February 16, 2012)

The shoulder of Lili, the small dachshund girl owned by Varga Piroska has been put back in its place, but unfortunately, as her leg was unable to grow as needed and is shorter than the rest. There is a huge bandage on it now, but we hope everything will be fine.



June 1st, 2012: Perhaps you still remember the miniature dachshund girl, whose displaces shoulder had to be operated on (the operation was performed at the Primavet Veterinary Hospital), but whose leg is shorter. Lili is fine, the family who took her in temporarily will adopt her, only a last look by the vet and spaying is needed.


Kun Karcag Szépe Sissy, i.e. Lili, as the Dachshund Rescue Hungary workers later named her is slowly forgetting her terrible young life, the weeks and weeks of constant pain. When you look at her eyes, you see all the love and affection for those who love her!

And Piroska Varga - by profession a nurse working in a hospital - was able to give this puppy over to the Dachshund Rescue Hungary workers with the comment thaent.t if they didn't come to pick her up at once, she would have it put to sleep without any treatment. It is due to pure luck and the puppy's will to survive that its leg didn't have to be amputated. Piroska Varga didn't spend a sine gpenny on the puppy's health and rehabilitation either then or later.

Arecent picture of Lilli proving that she has permanent disability.

The picture clearly shows that she is disabled. This was taken after surgery. Before surgery much of the skin and meat on her leg was missing - she had bitten it off in her pain.

What is this if not animal torture? If Lili had received appropriate treatment in time, her leg would not look like this!

I simply couldn't wait any longer - I reported Piroska Varga, owner of the Kun Karcag Szépe Kennel to the authorities - for animal abuse (being able to watch the pain of a puppy for 8 weeks) - and am hoping for an honest decision.

Further to the above, as clearly indicated in the e-mail exchange between us (available in Hungarian on my website), she has copied my website (albeit refuting responsibility saying that it was someone else who took care of her website) - its structure, the information.